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Old Oct 24, 2009, 10:42 AM // 10:42   #21
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Considering the insane cost, it really doesn't matter.

IMO spending reward points on shitty non-unlocks for a temporary character was dumb and using Zcoins is just as much a self rip-off. Exchange for Zkeys, sell Zkeys, Buy armor for PvE characters that actually lasts.
They wanted to make PvP unlocks account wide but couldn't code it.
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Old Oct 24, 2009, 01:23 PM // 13:23   #22
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Old Oct 24, 2009, 02:21 PM // 14:21   #23
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Is Penis Blade around this time ?
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Old Oct 24, 2009, 02:59 PM // 14:59   #24
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It's a 40% reduction on everything. 18 rp eotn armors would have been 30.
Going from 20 rp to 18 rp for a basic armor is 10% not 40%, but they did make the Eotn headpeices basic tier. There is no 40% reduction on any armor.

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I'm pretty sure the zcoin addition is only meant as a supplement to unlocking with RPs, not a replacement.
No, it doesn't make sense for anyone to have the ability to make a pvp character and not have a path to unlock skins.
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Old Oct 24, 2009, 03:49 PM // 15:49   #25
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IMO spending reward points on shitty non-unlocks for a temporary character was dumb and using Zcoins is just as much a self rip-off. Exchange for Zkeys, sell Zkeys, Buy armor for PvE characters that actually lasts.
Or make a permanent pvp.
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Going from 20 rp to 18 rp for a basic armor is 10% not 40%, but they did make the Eotn headpeices basic tier. There is no 40% reduction on any armor.
Everything besides the EotN skins decreased 40%. Thus, it's probably safe to conclude that the 18 rp EotN armors would have been priced at 30.
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No, it doesn't make sense for anyone to have the ability to make a pvp character and not have a path to unlock skins.
Yeah, because it's impossible to get RPs.
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Old Oct 24, 2009, 03:52 PM // 15:52   #26
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Or make a permanent pvp.

Everything besides the EotN skins decreased 40%. Thus, it's probably safe to conclude that the 18 rp EotN armors would have been priced at 30.
Stop trolling. Its a known fact the price was 20 rp's its been that way for years.
Heres the link to the old price list
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Old Oct 24, 2009, 05:48 PM // 17:48   #27
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Stop trolling. Its a known fact the price was 20 rp's its been that way for years.
Heres the link to the old price list
Did you notice that everything originally priced at 20 rp costs 12 now?
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Old Oct 24, 2009, 06:43 PM // 18:43   #28
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I'm not seeing a drastic reduction in rp's needed anywhere. You still have to unlock 50 basics armors to access the fancies. Seems they have been reduced from 20 rp's to 18 rp's or 36 silver zcoins for basic armor unlocks, but this is still unobtainable for 99.9 % of the GW population so you need 1800 silver or 180 gold zcoins to even look at the vabian/kurzick/fow unlocks. This is update is not helping anyone unlock squat, there is no vehicle in this game to generate that type of zcoin in less than two years.

Also the npc does not give you a choice between paying in zcoins or reward points, but takes the reward points automatically.
It's barely even 1,000 RP to get up to fancy weapons. I don't see what the complaint about "unobtainable 99.9% of the GW population" is.

The NPC does give you a choice between Zaishen Coins and Reward Points. It's pretty clear which one he takes.

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Old Oct 24, 2009, 07:17 PM // 19:17   #29
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Did you notice that everything originally priced at 20 rp costs 12 now?
I'm sure everything was 18 yesterday, but yes today I see the price for 12. I must have unwittingly only clicked on EoTN items and saw the 18.

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It's barely even 1,000 RP to get up to fancy weapons. I don't see what the complaint about "unobtainable 99.9% of the GW population" is.
I'm talking about the fancy armors not the weapons where they have three teirs. But where is someone going to get 1000 rps? A gvg tourny takes hours and you only get 15 for participating. If you are not top 16 gvg what can you do?

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Old Oct 24, 2009, 08:08 PM // 20:08   #30
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Nope, if by still being able to select it you mean re-rolling a sin and instantly putting on your unlocked armor. It doesn't work like that, its the same as buying pve armor, its customized to your character. So if you delete that sin you also delete the armor. If you re-roll a sin later on, you would have to go and purchase the armor from tolkano all over again.

Bear in mind that if you have unlocked 50 normal armor pieces to achieve the exotic armor tier, that will always be available.

Weapons on the other hand can be put onto heros and transfered from character to character, which is helpful.
Then this could be a problem for me. I always switch with my pvp characters so unless I dedicate one as permanent, buying armor would be a considerable waste.

Guess waiting on Tolkano wasn't worth it.
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Old Oct 24, 2009, 09:24 PM // 21:24   #31
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I'm sure everything was 18 yesterday, but yes today I see the price for 12. I must have unwittingly only clicked on EoTN items and saw the 18.



I'm talking about the fancy armors not the weapons where they have three teirs. But where is someone going to get 1000 rps? A gvg tourny takes hours and you only get 15 for participating. If you are not top 16 gvg what can you do?
If you're talking about armors, it's even less RPs.

You get 85 or so for winning an AT. There are so many free ATs it's not even funny.

You also must be forgetting the 1.5-year period where ArenaNet literally gave out 150 free RPs a month.

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Old Oct 24, 2009, 11:16 PM // 23:16   #32
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Is Penis Blade around this time ?
I don't think so. Didn't show the Lesser Arced Blade in his list. I guess Anet caught onto the rave from this sword. xD
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Old Oct 24, 2009, 11:38 PM // 23:38   #33
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I don't think so. Didn't show the Lesser Arced Blade in his list. I guess Anet caught onto the rave from this sword. xD
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You are welcome.

Oh, and Lemming isn't trolling you. He is being polite and bringing out your intelligence... Or lack there of.

Fancy weapons definately used to be 50 RPs.

I'm not sayin, jus sayin.
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Old Oct 25, 2009, 12:02 AM // 00:02   #34
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You are welcome.

Oh, and Lemming isn't trolling you. He is being polite and bringing out your intelligence... Or lack there of.

Fancy weapons definately used to be 50 RPs.

I'm not sayin, jus sayin.
o-o Let the perversion begin!
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Old Oct 25, 2009, 06:39 AM // 06:39   #35
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Considering the insane cost, it really doesn't matter.

IMO spending reward points on shitty non-unlocks for a temporary character was dumb and using Zcoins is just as much a self rip-off. Exchange for Zkeys, sell Zkeys, Buy armor for PvE characters that actually lasts.
Who says pvp characters have to be temporary? My pvp warrior literally just got its 3rd year present today.
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Old Oct 25, 2009, 08:09 AM // 08:09   #36
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The only thing (I guess you were asking) is if I bought a voltaic spear on my warrior, and wanted one on my monk, I'd have to buy another voltaic spear.
Actually there is a trick to move the weapon with skin to another character. Normally the weapon is customized for one character. You have to give it to one of your heroes on your first PvP character. Than you log into your seconds PvP character, select the same hero, get the spear. The spear is now customized for your second PvP character.

This only works between PvP characters!
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Old Oct 25, 2009, 08:53 AM // 08:53   #37
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Actually there is a trick to move the weapon with skin to another character. Normally the weapon is customized for one character. You have to give it to one of your heroes on your first PvP character. Than you log into your seconds PvP character, select the same hero, get the spear. The spear is now customized for your second PvP character.

This only works between PvP characters!
That is actually really cool to know. Thanks!
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